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How to make Koicha
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olivierco
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PostPosted: Sep 03, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oni wrote:
it is an intensive experience, my ears feel warm, I am experiencing an alertness a kind of high after two koichas, this was the most intensive tea experience in my life.


It sounds you brewed it the right way. Very Happy
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Buzz Fledderjohn
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PostPosted: Sep 06, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For koicha, I use 4 chashaku scoops of sifted matcha and maybe 2oz/60ml of water. Add enough water to make a paste. Slowly knead the matcha in an 'n' motion. Add the rest of the water. It should be thick like ketchup or paint. After drinking the koicha, I usually add more water to the leftover matcha to make usucha.
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PostPosted: Sep 06, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Kuro Raku has no leftover matcha, enough to fill, it is smooth and you can devour all the good stuff from it, I brewed the same way like you`ve said, but I had a few difficulties, for example with what to wipe the chawan, and the bubbles, to make that froth you need to make constant linear motion, if you use circular it ruins the froth in the middle. And this 4 chasaku koicha is not a rule, you can use more or less depending on your taste and the matcha, and for how much did the grandmasters use, the times have changed, nowdays matcha has become more sweet.
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:
For koicha, I use 4 chashaku scoops of sifted matcha and maybe 2oz/60ml of water. Add enough water to make a paste. Slowly knead the matcha in an 'n' motion. Add the rest of the water. It should be thick like ketchup or paint. After drinking the koicha, I usually add more water to the leftover matcha to make usucha.


You mean add a bit of water to the Matcha and in the 'n' motion make a paste. But once you add the rest of the water, its the usual linear motion?

Oni, those Kuro Raku must come with a Telflon coating in them! Laughing
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Oni
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The glaze made from Kamogawa river-stone which is kneaded and then melted down, and even when you make the paste it doesn`t stick, like teflon.
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prestontolbert
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PostPosted: Oct 06, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing to remember is to make sure the chasen is wet before you whisk the matcha. Also the size of the chawan determines the amount of matcha and the amount of water. Some teamasters use a 10 inch wide chawan.
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PostPosted: Oct 06, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried koicha, I liked it, but if I would like to reacreate the enviroment of a japanese teahouse, and buy all the required equipment it would cost me a fortune.
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