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Genmaicha ....whats the deal

 
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PostPosted: Apr 12, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Genmaicha ....whats the deal Reply with quote

Hey gang,

I'm fairly new to green tea and have only been drinking the Sencha (Miyabi) and Gyokura teas but have to ask what is the Genmaicha teas like. I can't imagine that puffed rice adds any flavor value to the tea so what are these used for and can anyone comment on their flavor, purpose etc.

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PostPosted: Apr 12, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bigblock,

Well, surprisingly, it does add a new flavor to the tea. Predictably, it tastes and smells very much like green tea and rice krispies. Not my favorite, but occasionally, I enjoy this. I prefer the kind with matcha added...more tea taste!
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand, the original purpose was to add filler to green tea to reduce the cost, thus genmaicha was mainly enjoyed (or not) by poor people. As for the taste, to me it's not much different than houjicha.
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like genmaicha with food. And maybe on certain occasions by itself. One of the assets of genmaicha is that it is low in caffeine.

It is good if you're after a casual cup of tea.
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PostPosted: May 02, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do enjoy a cup of genmaicha as it does have it's own identity. The smoky, nutty, sometimes buttery flavor of the toasted and/or popped rice makes an ordinary cup of tea unique. Just as a cup can have an "ocean" or "grassy" undertone, you can taste the "nuttiness" of the rice in genmaicha.

But yeah, as spacesamurai notes, it was originally filler to cut the tea for commoners. I would like to think that it's still around for a reason though.
I like genmaicha because it's not fussy to prepare like the more delicate teas. and still tastes halfway decent.
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan wrote:
I like genmaicha with food. And maybe on certain occasions by itself. One of the assets of genmaicha is that it is low in caffeine.

It is good if you're after a casual cup of tea.


This reminds me...I think I know now why I have not been liking my genmaicha sample. In the past, if I drunk genmaicha at all, it would be during meal time so I'd be eating something. Genmaicha then was just a nice experience. But lately, I've been drinking it in the morning without eating anything and I'm not liking that experience as much.

Hmm...maybe I should save my sample of genmaicha extra green for when I'm eating.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive tried matcha-iri-genmaicha and i dont quite get the point of putting matcha with genmaicha. I mean, the color is bit more greeny and more cloudy, but the taste is same.

And i wonder if you can even made second influsion with it, because all matcha is in first influsion.

Secondly i am wondering if it is good to make genmaicha in my regular kyusu (i use it only for sencha), because clay may absorb genmaichas aroma.

And last think is quite logical. Why are they putting matcha, which is for tea ceremonies in genmaicha, which was consumed by poor people.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Domn wrote:
Secondly i am wondering if it is good to make genmaicha in my regular kyusu (i use it only for sencha), because clay may absorb genmaichas aroma.


I use my one glazed kyusu (Somayaki) for genmaicha and houjicha. The glaze inside prevents the pot from aquiring the characteristic of the tea, which with these two is very different from and stronger than straight sencha. The Somayaki is also double-walled, so it is more suitable for teas like these that are typically brewed at higher temperatures.

I do only one infusion for three minutes and I do not cool the water first as I do with sencha (I don't use boiling water; I guess it's about 185 degrees).

I have gotten very good, consistent results this way.
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PostPosted: Jul 25, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarthax wrote:
I do enjoy a cup of genmaicha as it does have it's own identity. The smoky, nutty, sometimes buttery flavor of the toasted and/or popped rice makes an ordinary cup of tea unique. Just as a cup can have an "ocean" or "grassy" undertone, you can taste the "nuttiness" of the rice in genmaicha.


This is a great description of the whole genmaicha experience in my opinion. Couldn't have said it better myself! It's very roasty-toasty and flavorful, but not "tea" flavorful. It has a big presence on the palate and that's why I think some prefer to drink it with food. I personally like it as an afternoon tea occasionally.
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PostPosted: Jul 25, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you know who invented genmaicha?
It is the Horaido teashop, founded in 1803, I quote this from their site "
Genmaicha (Tea and roasted rice mixed)
Enjoy the tea taste and savory flavor at meal time.
80 years ago our shop invented this tea. We call this tea Horaicha.", interesting to know, I just recently ordered 4 bags of tea from them, two high and two middle grades.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oni wrote:
Did you know who invented genmaicha?
It is the Horaido teashop, founded in 1803, I quote this from their site "
Genmaicha (Tea and roasted rice mixed)
Enjoy the tea taste and savory flavor at meal time.
80 years ago our shop invented this tea. We call this tea Horaicha.", interesting to know, I just recently ordered 4 bags of tea from them, two high and two middle grades.


I went to their site a while ago... They make some interesting grammar mistakes. Ah well, they did a better job at translating into English than I could translate into Japanese.

Anyway, this was the story I heard when I found out about Genmaicha. It was originally "peasent tea". Because some people were too poor to buy sencha all the time, they added the brown rice to tea to make it last longer. (Sort of like adding water to pop/soda at a fountain dispenser in a restaurant.)

Is this right? Did I wrongly assume the people added the rice to the tea? Or is this story simply not true?
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no idea about how genmaicha was invented, but i remember matsuda telling me how people in japan put those rice cracker things into their sencha, i did try that and it tastes just like genmaicha so if you want genmaicha and don't have any those rice crackers work good
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The story I heard about the discovery of genmaicha:

A warlord was having his morning meeting with his advisors and generals and called his servant to serve the daily tea. When called, the servant was eating a rice ball so he placed it inside his kimono. When he went to serve the tea, the rice ball fell out and landed in the teapot. Embarassed by his incompetent servent, the warlord drew his sword and beheaded him.

The meeting continued, and forgetting that the rice was now mixed with the tea, the warlord poured some into his cup and took a sip. He was astonished at how good it tasted. When he remembered what had happened he felt bad that the servant who made this discovery was now headless. In his honor, he decided to name this new tea variation after his servant, whose name was Genmai.
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PostPosted: Jul 30, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a really nice story. I will try not to apply logic to a fictional story and shall therefore not point out that the servant was very conveniently called "brown rice" Mr. Green

[edit]: The first sentence sounds a bit sarcastic, sorry about that. I really enjoyed the story. Thanks for sharing.
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