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Zojirushi kettle vs conventional boiling

 
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Oni
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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Zojirushi kettle vs conventional boiling Reply with quote

I`ve been thinking on buying a Zojirushi Zutto, 2.2 liter teapot, it has 3 temperature settings, and I`ve read that it takes 20-30 minutes to reach the desired temperature, and it displays it, it isn`t a boiler, it is more like a water dispenser, the main question is, knowing that I preheat my teaware with the same water that I use for brewing tea, especially with gyokuro I transfer from teapot to yuzamashi and from there into three cups, and than back on to the leaves, for this the temperature of the water that hits my teapot should be around 95-100 C, so I won`t use the lower temperature settings, after I brewed my tea and dispensed it from my yuzamashi, I immediately pour another brew worth amount of water and by the time I drink my tea the second infusion is ready, with the houhin I use 500cc, water brought to a boil, and after the first 3 infusions I need to reboil my water. I read on the previous post that reboiling water decreases the oxigen level, I use an electric boiler, and I`d like to ask someone who owns a zojirushi dispenser, I know it is airtight, but after a few hours of functioning does it ruin the waters quality, I use vulcanic spring water, 73 mg total water hardness, perfect for tea.
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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't own one, but I am good friends with a guy who does.

He's the owner of my local green tea shop and he has his on all the time to make samples of green tea through-out the day. He doesn't have any issues with reboiling.

Maybe his model is different to the ones you're looking at, but once it gets the water to the set temperature, it stays there, so there really isn't any need to reboil.

One little tip though, don't let it run dry. If you fill it up when its about a quarter full, then the time to reboil will be about 5 - 10 minutes instead of 20-30.
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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Zojirushi kettle vs conventional boiling Reply with quote

Oni wrote:
I use vulcanic spring water, 73 mg total water hardness, perfect for tea.


Wait, How on earth do I get a hold of volcanic spring water!?! doh
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Oni
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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live near the eastern Carpatian mountains, near to Vatra Dornei, and one spring there has very soft water, even here not many people know and use this, they don`t brew tea, most of the people buy carbonated version of the same water ( Bucovina ), I think it is blasfemy adding CO2 to such a fine soft water, it is much the same quality as Volvic in France, but the price is very convenient, 2,5$ for 5 liters, they store it in plastic though, it would be perfect to buy this stored in glasses around 10 liters.
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okimasa
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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oni wrote:
I live near the eastern Carpatian mountains, near to Vatra Dornei, and one spring there has very soft water, even here not many people know and use this, they don`t brew tea, most of the people buy carbonated version of the same water ( Bucovina ), I think it is blasfemy adding CO2 to such a fine soft water, it is much the same quality as Volvic in France, but the price is very convenient, 2,5$ for 5 liters, they store it in plastic though, it would be perfect to buy this stored in glasses around 10 liters.


Wow, I don't know why, but this sounds really amazing me!
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Kitsune77
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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally broke down and bought the Zoji Zutto. I love it! I never knew how much of a difference it could make as far as saving time. It runs 24/7 if you leave it plugged in. I have had no complaints regarding it ruining the water; it tastes just the same. For reboiling, if I have it about half-full, it only takes about 5 minutes. It may take up to 25 mins to boil when I've cleaned it and filled it with room-temperature water. I leave it at 195, so it needs to cool for a minute or so when I'm brewing gyokuro. It is well worth the money, I would recommend it without hesitation!
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Oni
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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reply, that is what I wanted to hear, I knew it would save time and I could jut put my teapot under it and I`m ready to enjoy sencha fast after meals or whenever I feel the need.
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Kitsune77
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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem! Smile
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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oni wrote
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they store it in plastic though, it would be perfect to buy this stored in glasses around 10 liters.


I don't know if this helps, but a company called SIGG makes Aluminum bottles with a food grade lining that won't degrade or impart taste to the water you store in it. I have been using one for weeks for personal water and found it to be really great for water. Maybe you can get a few of their larger ones to store water in.

Hope this helps.
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