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wehayley 2nd Degree Black Belt

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| My understanding it that the Chinese traditionally pour off the first steep, calling it "foot water." |
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Chip Spam/Troll Killer

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| wehayley wrote: | | My understanding it that the Chinese traditionally pour off the first steep, calling it "foot water." |
In gonfu method commonly used for Chinese oolongs and pu-erh, a lot of leaf is used. The first steep is very short...sometimes only a few seconds. It is intended to "wake up the leaves" but it also rinses dust and other impurities away. Some caffeine is also washed away but probably very little since the steep time is extremely short.
I am doubtful if it is as common to follow this practice of "waking" with Chinese greens...but I am not certain. |
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Ryan Sensei

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Of all the reading I've done and being in a traditional Chinese tea house in San Francisco, I have never seen the practice of pouring off any liquid for green tea on the first steep.
I'm certain enough that with green tea, in China, no one pours any of the first steep off. Like Chip said, this is only the case for oolong and it is usually only 2 seconds or so.
If anyone does throw out the first steep, whether it 2 seconds or 30 seconds then they must be doing it for their own personal purposes. But this is not a common practice by any stretch of the imagination for green tea. |
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Chip Spam/Troll Killer

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Ryan wrote: | Of all the reading I've done and being in a traditional Chinese tea house in San Francisco, I have never seen the practice of pouring off any liquid for green tea on the first steep.
I'm certain enough that with green tea, in China, no one pours any of the first steep off. Like Chip said, this is only the case for oolong and it is usually only 2 seconds or so.
If anyone does throw out the first steep, whether it 2 seconds or 30 seconds then they must be doing it for their own personal purposes. But this is not a common practice by any stretch of the imagination for green tea. |
Agreed...
There is too much of the total flavor released early in green tea to justify pouring off its first steep. With oolong and pu-erh, relatively little of the leaf's total flavor is released early and often the first steep is light compared to successive steeps. |
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wehayley 2nd Degree Black Belt

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Since my source, Lam Kam Chuen, "The Way of Tea," was indeed referring to Kung Fu tea, I assume he was referencing red/black tea and not green.
Moving on, keep in mind that tea also has medicinal purposes. The effects of various teas may well have effects that differ from person to person. This, in turn, may explain why one person gets a buzz from white tea that is greater than what they get from green or red, or even why two people drinking the same tea may have very different results. This goes beyond issues of caffeine level, body weight, etc. and speaks to core energetics... |
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Kevangogh Forum God

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Posted: Jan 20, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Re: about discarding the first infusion |
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The first infusion can be poured off if you don't want caffeine. As much as I hate to recommend anyone do that, it's better to than buying the poor decaf "green tea" they sell in the stores. This is not done because the tea is too bitter - if that is the case, then it was most likely brewed too hot.
| adamscottprice wrote: | I thought that throwing out the first infusion was a good idea: it improves the taste (removes bitterness) and also removes the caffeine. When I say first infusion I mean a steeping the tea bag for about 30 seconds. I'm not a connoisseur -- I just drink Twinings green tea in teabag form -- but I do find the flavour to be better this way. Also, I'd read that all of the particularly healthy components of the tea take longer than 30 seconds to be absorbed by the water (like about 5 minutes) and so you only loose the caffeine in the first infusion.
Could anyone correct me where appropriate on this? |
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