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How do you like your sencha?

 
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Hushfield
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: How do you like your sencha? Reply with quote

I've seen a lot of people here give advice on brewing times and what yields the best results for green tea. But I was wondering, how do you like your tea best: do you like it rather strong or do you prefer very short brewing times? I'm in no way asking what is best, just interested in personal preferences. Could you perhaps also include how long you generally brew your tea?

So for me that would be:
first infusion: 1min 50sec-2min10sec
second infusion: 10-15sec
third infusion: 10-15 sec

Of course it also depends on how much leaf you add, since I don't add very much, I guess the taste would be somewhere between (very) strong and somewhat lighter taste?

[edit]: all this is for regular sencha
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you like your sencha? Reply with quote

Hushfield wrote:
I've seen a lot of people here give advice on brewing times and what yields the best results for green tea. But I was wondering, how do you like your tea best: do you like it rather strong or do you prefer very short brewing times? I'm in no way asking what is best, just interested in personal preferences.


I prefer sencha to be reasonably strong as opposed to 'watery'. When possible, I prefer this for all three infusions instead of a 'watery' first, a very strong second, and a somewhat in between third, which is what I would typically get when I first started.


Hushfield wrote:
Could you perhaps also include how long you generally brew your tea?

So for me that would be:
first infusion: 1min 50sec-2min10sec
second infusion: 10-15sec
third infusion: 10-15 sec

Of course it also depends on how much leaf you add, since I don't add very much, I guess the taste would be somewhere between (very) strong and somewhat lighter taste?

[edit]: all this is for regular sencha


I don't actually specifically measure leaf or water any more, and I don't use a timer, so there's bound to be some error in my estimates.

I use about a teaspoon or a bit more per six ounces of water.

I think my water starts at about 185-190 but I'm not positive on that. There is steam coming from it but it's well below boiling.

First infusion: water into water cooler for just a few seconds, then into pot with leaf already in it for about 90 seconds. I don't usually preheat the pot.

Second infusion: water into water cooler until it can be picked up (by the body, not the handle) without any "ouch"! This is quite a bit cooler than the first infusion. I pour the water into the pot, drop on the lid, and immediately pour into the cups.

Third infusion: water temp back to hotter (somewhere between first and third temp) and time between 30-45 seconds.

I find this to be a good starting point for 4 of the 5 shincha. I then vary from here as needed for each individual one. For Hatsumi, I lower the amount of leaf and increase the first infusion to two minutes to 'tame' what had been a very strong second infusion.

If this question is asked a year from now, my answer and methods may very well be different. Although I've used the method above for a while now, I won't hesitate to vary from it if something works better.

As shincha turns to sencha and gradually gets older before the next season's shincha becomes available, I tend to vary the brewing method with the changes in the tea over the course of a year .
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PostPosted: Jun 10, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In general brewing with kyusu is said to be the casual way, between meal or with sweets, I recently ordered from horaido a houhin set, kyo yaki and the usual parameters, with one yuzamashi and 5 cups, they say it needs one table spoon or two teaspoons of sencha about 5 grams and the general 70-80 C temperature, 1 minute, I am very curious, I will post the photos and preferably sometime I`ll make a video too, stay tuned and find out the serious way like in ogasawararyuu on youtube (watch and learn).
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PostPosted: Jun 10, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually like my tea on the weak side, particularly with sencha. I don't like a lot of astringency in it, so I err on the side of being a bit light.

Standard times are... ~60, ~30s, ~45s. It depends on whether you count the pour time, but that's average.
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PostPosted: Jun 10, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it to vary. Sometimes I will lower the temp just a bit to sweeten it and lower the astringency. In the morning, I like a little bite to it...so, I will up the temp a few degrees and make it a little more astringent.

I love being able to adjust better sencha to my taste at the moment.

Times vary from sencha to sencha...but my starting point is 90 sec.
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PostPosted: Jun 11, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies so far, this is really interesting to read. When you supply the infusion times for first, second and third infusions, there's generally a pattern which goes like :
1: long
2: much shorter
3: a little longer than 2
I assume this is because by the third infusion a lot of the 'teaness' (for lack of better word, feel free to educate me) has already been absorbed by the previous two infusions and you need to brew a little longer to get the same amount of 'teaness' (again...) in?
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PostPosted: Jun 11, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grassy, green, and slightly astringent...like my women
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PostPosted: Jul 19, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like mine too astringent. I like it light, but done so you get that nice veggie roll off of the tongue.

I usually brew for 6oz of water and 1 tsp of leaves with the following infusion times:

1st steep: ~60 seconds (to account for the pouring segement)

2nd steep: ~45 seconds (this is always the most tasteful)

3rd steep: ~70 seconds (any more and it becomes too astringent for my liking)
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PostPosted: Jul 21, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

normally i use the times ~ as mentioned above

i'm going through a fuka phase atm, and thats more like

50s
0s
30s

and the second cup still sometimes is on the strong side, but thats probably because my scales are broken and i guess more or less how much leaf i need, which is alot harder with the fuka.
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PostPosted: Jul 21, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually starting to refine my brewing (ever since I got my handy dandy digital thermometer).

For Fukamushi Sencha, my infusion times are roughly the following (not including the pour):

1st steep: 30 seconds
2nd steep: around 10-15 seconds
3rd steep: around 45 seconds

2nd steep is the quickest and I love the richness @ 15 seconds when I pour 168F water into the pre-heated kyusu.
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