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eens
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Trying to lose weight Reply with quote

Hey I'm new to the forums here, I am currently 265 im 19 and im 6'2, I just started to drink grean tea from the flavor packets from shaws, the ones where you add in water, I have been drinking around 3 a day. I am trying to get down to 200 by the end of july, I run 5 miles a day and bike 5 miles and sometimes play basketball, along with that I have 2 20gram whey protein shakes a day to account them as part of my small 6 meals a day, do you think it is realistic for me to hit my goal? Any suggestions from anyone on how to better my chance of accomplishing it? and if I lose to much weight to fast do I have to worry about having sag?
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eens, I think that at 19 years old, and with all the working out you are doing, if you stick to a healthy diet with fruit and vegetables, good whole grain carbs and not overdoing fatty protein sources, you will be successful at losing the weight you need. Green tea helps your metabolism, so it helps a little. Just be patient, losing weight permanently takes time.

The forum moderator may tell you to go to the "Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle" link. That's up to you if you want to buy some advice. I've never gone there, but I'm losing weight doing what your doing, just not as much exercise. (I'm old enough to be your mom)
As for worrying about sagging, you're 19, you wont sag!
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost 35 pounds since May 1st and have kept it off by being willing to pay $39 and read the book - it speaks for itself. What do you want, before and after pics? I could certainly send them if you want. I'm frankly tired of having to justify this. This is advice I would give anyone, obviously, since it worked for me. I *could* do what everyone else does and tell them to just drink more green tea, despite the fact you can only burn about 70 extra calories per day with it (1 pound ever 43 days.)

Does he know exactly what his body fat percentage is? Does he know exactly how many calories he needs to cut without putting his body into starvation mode? Specifically, for each meal? Unless he knows this, he will never accomplish his goals, he will be "dieting" blindly.

Bluestem seems to have some problem with "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" because it's something you have to pay a whopping $39 for. It's a 400 page book and is WELL WORTH THE MONEY. All I can say is, it changed my life and was easily worth the money.


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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevangogh wrote:
I lost 35 pounds since May 1st and have kept it off by being willing to pay $39 and read the book - it speaks for itself. What do you want, before and after pics? I could certainly send them if you want. I'm frankly tired of having to justify this.

Bluestem seems to have some problem with "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" because it's something you have to pay a whopping $39 for. It's a 400 page book and is WELL WORTH THE MONEY. All I can say is, it changed my life and was easily worth the money.


Some people never believe anything, regardless of who it comes from. In some ways, you can't blame them with all the online scams that go on every day.

I trust O-Cha enough to drink their tea, so I fully believe what you say about the book. Not everything is a scam, but green tea and weight loss is probably one of the biggest scams ever and you have chosen not to capitalize on that one, even though you easily could.

To me, refusing to participate in a profitable scam while promoting a book that you have no financial interest in says a whole lot about O-Cha.com. I've never read the book, but friends and co-workers who were also body builders have pretty much said what the title says; "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle".
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I understand why people wouldn't believe it.

"If" someone clicks on the link up there and "if" they buy the book, it is a fact that I will get a small percentage of the sale - I want to clarify that. However, it's less than half of what my average sale of green tea is. If that upsets anyone, they can simply go directly to www.burnthefat.com without clicking the above link, I'm still going to recommend it until the day I die because I know what it did for me.

The green tea weight loss thing has just about driven me crazy, I'm simply happy that I now have a place to send people who are interested in really losing weight. Bottom line - drinking 5 cups of green tea daily will increase one's metabolism enough to lose about 1 pound over 43 days, or about 8 pounds per year, and that isn't enough for most people.
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody would ever criticize a blogger for advertising such a book if they found it effective, or for using an affiliate link. Just because Kevin happens to run a store shouldn't make a difference. The book, if anything, takes business away from him.
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is to keep it up. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing I would like to point out. Everyone has heard people say "eat less, exercise more" but exactly how much more to exercise or less to eat is rarely clear to most people. The fact is, it doesn't matter *how* healthy the foods are that you are eating, be it fruit, vegetables, nuts, oatmeal, broccoli, whatever - if you eat too much of it (too many calories) and/or eat it in an inefficient way (skipping breakfast, going for 8 hours without food, etc), you will gain weight (fat.) By following some sound strategies, the original poster could pretty easily get to where he wants to be, but not by July - no way. He just needs to know what to do very clearly, and by that I don't "winging it" by just trying to eat healthy stuff.

Let's see - 65 pounds by July. There are 12 weeks until June 1st. If he loses 2 pounds a week, then that will only be a loss of 24 pounds. Since it's never a good idea to lose more than 2 pounds a week (so as not to trigger a starvation response in the body), no - he will not make 65 pounds by July 1st. If he does figure out a way to lose that much by that time, then after July he is going to have a serious rebound in weight and he will most likely end up with a higher body fat percentage and lower lean muscle percentage than with what he started with because when you lose that kind of weight in that amount of time, a large percentage of it will be muscle. Since muscle is metabolically active tissue, the next time he tries to lose weight it will even be tougher because he has less muscle to burn fat with than what he started with.
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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drink matcha daily, in every morning, it reduces cholesterol at least.
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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i understand that it would only be 24 pounds til june 1st, my goal is for july 31st, if i burn around 2.5 pounds a week til the end of july is that unhealthy cause i do know its recomended around max 2 pounds a week, but i hear and read different things, even if im around 210-215 by the end of july I wont mind just because there will obviosuly be a significant change, but i want the full 65.
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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Bluestem seems to have some problem with "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" because it's something you have to pay a whopping $39 for. It's a 400 page book and is WELL WORTH THE MONEY. All I can say is, it changed my life and was easily worth the money."

I have no problem with people buying a book about weight loss. I just want people to know it can be done without buying special books, exercise equipment, or special food. And I can believe it works if Kevangogh has sucessfully attested to losing weight. I'm sure he is not lying.. I just don't agree with promoting weight loss products on a green tea forum. Ok, last time I'll post about this or anything else.
Sorry to anger you, Kevangogh. If forum members such as eams buy this book, I hope they find it useful for their weight loss. If you're sick of talking about weight loss and green tea, then just link people to some your previous posts. I know you are answering the same questions about many different subjects again and again, yes, it gets tiring.

By the way, I did purchase gyokuro tea from O-cha a couple of months back, and it was very good. I didn't mind paying a "whopping"? amount for quality. I'm not cheap.

Thanks for the excellent tea.
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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eens wrote:
i understand that it would only be 24 pounds til june 1st, my goal is for july 31st, if i burn around 2.5 pounds a week til the end of july is that unhealthy cause i do know its recomended around max 2 pounds a week, but i hear and read different things, even if im around 210-215 by the end of july I wont mind just because there will obviosuly be a significant change, but i want the full 65.



I wouldn't target a specific "weight", I'd target a body fat percentage. Do you know what your current body fat % is? You really need to know that. One guy could be the same height and weight as you and be muscle, whereas another guy might be the same and it's mostly fat. This is why BMI is kind of worthless.

It would be 24 pounds by July 1st. By July 31st, you could conceivably lose another 8 pounds. That would be under ideal circumstances where you knew exactly what you were doing and would depend on on how strict you were. When I first started doing it, I did lose 2 pounds a week but after the first few weeks that dropped to where I was eventually losing about 1 pound a week. In the last month, I haven't lost any but that's what happens when you get near your ideal body weight.

Yeah, if you did it right and lost even 20 pounds and 95% of that was fat and not muscle loss, you would look way better. The main thing you need to worry about is that any weight you lose be from fat, not muscle. If you try to starve yourself into losing "weight", then most of that will come from muscle loss.

You don't have to worry about "sag."
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eens
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PostPosted: Mar 31, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

22.76% body fat is what i got
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