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Markmarkymarcus
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 Posted: Mar 19, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: How to brew the 2nd and 3rd infusion |
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Hello, I am new to tea and reading about how to brew a cup of tea from the "Brewing" section of this website was really informative BUT there is nowhere to explain to me HOW you brew a second then third lot of the same tea.
I know you don't put boiling water straight into the pot to make the second infusion after doing the first ceramony to make the first infusion so what exactly do you do.
If I follow the instructions the right way it's easy to make the first infusion but what do I do and what do I use to make the other infusions is what's confusing!!!
Can some one please give me a detailed instruction list on what it is I do to make a second then third infusion using the same tea that's in the tea pot???Green Tea Gift Set |
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olivierco
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| Posted: Mar 19, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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As a general rule, for second and third infusion, you have to rise a little the temperature (about 5 ° more than the first one) and shorten the infusion time.
For example for a sencha:
60s for first
20s for second
30s for third
60s for fourth
It depends also on the quantity of leaves vs water you are using.
There isn't any absolute rule anyway, you have to adjust the parameters to your taste. |
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Kevangogh
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| Posted: Mar 19, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| The second and third infusions are not so critical. All you have to do is add more hot water to the teapot and brew it for about 1/2 minute or so and you are done. |
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Markmarkymarcus
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| Posted: Mar 19, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| And is it boiling water I add or do I let it cool for the same amount of time in the two tea cups like you do when making the first infusion?Green Tea Gift Set |
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Kevangogh
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| Posted: Mar 19, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The heat is not quite as critical on the 2nd and 3rd infusions, but you should still let it cool down a bit.
That's my "basic" advice, just keep in mind there are some tea pimps on here who follow really strict brewing procedures for subsequent infusions!  |
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Markmarkymarcus
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| Posted: Mar 19, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL ok cool, thank you for that now it's not at all confusing as it was before.Handy Teapot |
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okimasa
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| Posted: Mar 20, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: |
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For example for a sencha:
60s for first
20s for second
30s for third
60s for fourth
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I think this is a good guide. But Markmarkymarcus, one thing to keep in mind is that a good cup of tea is something a bit different to everyone. So once you've got the hang of it, try some experiementing! |
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Markmarkymarcus
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| Posted: Mar 20, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Oh I will, thank you for your help, I'll actually let you guys know how I go once everything I've orderd has arrived  |
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britt
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| Posted: Mar 29, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| Kevangogh wrote: | | That's my "basic" advice, just keep in mind there are some tea pimps on here who follow really strict brewing procedures for subsequent infusions! |
Yeah, especially the fourth through tenth! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Seriously, I do find that as the year goes on my first infusion has lengthened from 60 to 90 seconds, even with the Midori. We'll see when the 2008 tea comes out whether the tea has changed with time or whether I just like it stronger now.
With the 2007 Midori I now do 90, 30, 45. I always use cooler water for the Midori than I do with other senchas I've tried.
With 2007 Fukamashi Supreme and Miyabi I was doing >90, 0, 60 and using much hotter water, especially for the first.
Using the same infusion times for the same tea over the course of the year may not be the best way. |
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Ryan
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| Posted: Mar 29, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Generally speaking, I find that with sencha any steep time below 1:30 only proves to produce an incomplete tasting cup of tea, regardless of how much leaf is utilized.
For many of o-cha's sencha's for example, I steep a full 2 minutes.
From my experience, it simply is not true that using a very large quantity of sencha leaf for a shorter steep time will produce the most superlative cup of tea. Instead, I find that a moderate amount of leaf for a more extended brewing time will produce the very best the tea can offer. |
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britt
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| Posted: Mar 29, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Ryan wrote: | | From my experience, it simply is not true that using a very large quantity of sencha leaf for a shorter steep time will produce the most superlative cup of tea. Instead, I find that a moderate amount of leaf for a more extended brewing time will produce the very best the tea can offer. |
I have tried this, and I agree with your statement. I've found that increasing the amount of leaf too much gives me a very cloudy, mucky cup that tastes pretty mediocre. I typically use about a level teaspoon per six ounces, make sure the water is cool enough (especially for Midori), increase the time of the first steep as necessary, and the result is usually a very clear, bright green cup that tastes great!
I do sometimes go back to the white cups just to see what I'm really doing. They help to show any mistakes that are being made and are great for checking out different brewing methods. |
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