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geoff Uh, Can I Add Sugar?

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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: Filtering sincha |
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| Is there a better filter than the mesh I normally use for filtering out the sincha leaf fragments. I have a lot of fine leaf pieces of the midori in my cup. I don't dislike this, but I wonder what others do. |
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Ryan Sensei

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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 3:45 am Post subject: |
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My teapot is made of ceramic and the screen is also ceramic, yet very well made. Nevertheless, I get a lot of particles in my cup yet I do not mind this and in fact welcome it. Some people are partial to a cup that is more crystal clear and devoid of tea particles...
One solution you could use is to get an additional very fine strainer to pour the tea through. So you would hold the teapot and pour and have the liquid go through another piece of mesh. This strategy might make your tea virtually particle free depending upon how fine the additional mesh infuser is. |
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Chip Spam/Troll Killer

Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 745 Location: Back in the TeaCave atop Mt. Fuji, purging looters
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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: |
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...however, removing too much particle is said to remove too much flavor. So, it is a balancing act.
If you remove so much particle to render the brew crystal clear, I think it would lose too much flavor. |
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Photiou Black Belt

Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 125 Location: Finland
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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I did not like O-Chas Yutaka Midori much for exactly that reason - too broken grade and dusty. I use my french press for teas with small particles/fukamushi and kyusu with ceramic screen for lightly steamed teas.
I think Uji Sencha Miyabi was better of the two O-Cha senchas I tried and I have stayed on ujicha after that. |
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syntheticpanda 2nd Degree Black Belt

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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| You say "broken grade" like fukamushi is a bad thing... |
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Photiou Black Belt

Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 125 Location: Finland
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Posted: Jul 01, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| syntheticpanda wrote: | | You say "broken grade" like fukamushi is a bad thing... |
No it is not - it just boils down to personal preference.
(Edit: I prefer clear brews like this one http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2610/senchaig2.jpg) |
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Maggie45 Brown Belt

Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 55 Location: Bisbee, Arizona, USA
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Posted: Jul 02, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Yes, differing preferences is what makes the world go 'round. I love that we have so many choices. Yutaka Midori happens to be my personal preference. At home I use this pot
Tokoname Teapot with Cats II
and I get absolutely no particles in the cup, which disappoints me a bit. At work I use an infuser which is not mesh and get LOTS of particles in the cup which settle on the bottom, and I savor the anticipation of gradually getting to the bottom and when I do...I swirl the tea one last time and voila I have one delicious swallow of textured flavor.
Photiou, I'm beginning to suspect that because English is not your first language, it is the reason that you sometimes come across to me as rather condescending.  |
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Kevangogh Forum God

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Posted: Jul 02, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The nature of the internet is that you can't always come across as you would face to face. |
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Karen Black Belt

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 123
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Posted: Jul 03, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Filtering sincha |
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| geoff wrote: | | Is there a better filter than the mesh I normally use for filtering out the sincha leaf fragments. I have a lot of fine leaf pieces of the midori in my cup. I don't dislike this, but I wonder what others do. |
At this point, I only own one kyusu, but its stainlesss-steel screen does a stellar job of filtering, including fukamushi. However, by "filtering," I mean actual leaf fragments--the tea isn't crystal clear, and it has a cloudiness that settles. That's fine with me because it doesn't affect the flavor adversely (I suspect it IS the flavor). However, in my (albeit limited) experience, actual leaf fragments are a problem because they keep brewing and can render an infusion bitter. This might not be a problem with very high-grade teas like gyokuro that are naturally sweeter and are also brewed at low temperatures, but I don't like other teas (including non-Japanese) any more bitter than they should be.
My advice is to get yourself an extremely fine strainer. Has anyone had any experience with those bamboo tea strainers? |
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Ryan Sensei

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Posted: Jul 03, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| I would say, and this is just my opinion, that any leaf fragments even if they continue to "brew" this probably doesn't even equal 1/10 of a gram of tea. That being the case, I can't see how it would increase the bitterness. I could be wrong though, I like my tea fragments. |
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Karen Black Belt

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Posted: Jul 03, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Ryan!
I'm gonna disagree with you on this. I've experienced this mainly with non-Japanese teas (usually green), but it's quite true. The little buggers just kept brewing but the problem disappeared with straining. I've found that this isn't a problem with oolongs brewed in an Yixing pot, though, because the leaves are large and just don't pass through the pot's filter. What can I say...I'm anal.  |
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Photiou Black Belt

Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 125 Location: Finland
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Posted: Jul 03, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Ryan then - as my kyusu has a ceramic screen it will let some leaf fragments trough but I have not detected any extra bitterness in tea (sencha) even if I let it stay some time in a teacup.
Place X also advertises their hohin teapot by saying that few leaf fragments its coarse filter lets trough will improve taste .
(admin, how is the hohin hunt going?)
Chinese teas I have do not have small leaf fragments so I have not had any problems with them. |
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Karen Black Belt

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Posted: Jul 03, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Photiou wrote: | Place X also advertises their hohin teapot by saying that few leaf fragments its coarse filter lets trough will improve taste .
(admin, how is the hohin hunt going?) |
Yes, but it's because "Place X" specifically states that their hohin is for extremely high-grade leaf that I mentioned gyokuro, which is brewed at a low temperature.  |
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